Key Takeaways
- Most knee pain does not start in the knee, which is why many people can avoid knee surgery. Especially in women, it often comes from the hip and pelvis — so the knee is where you feel it, not where it begins.
- In a landmark New England Journal of Medicine trial, arthroscopic knee surgery for a worn meniscus worked no better than a fake, “sham” surgery.
- More than 500,000 of these knee “clean-out” surgeries are done in the U.S. every year, at a cost near $4 billion. Research estimates up to 1 in 3 — nearly half in some states — are low-value.
- A 2-year JAMA study found repeated steroid injections caused twice the cartilage loss of saltwater shots, with no better pain relief.
- Some knee surgeries are truly necessary. The way to know is a whole-body biomechanical exam — not just an x-ray of the knee.
Hi, it’s Subrat. So if your doctor has told you that you need knee surgery — or you already had the surgery and you are still hurting — there is something you really need to understand first.
I see this all the time. People come to me who have already had knee surgery. Sometimes on both knees. A total knee replacement. And they are still complaining of the same pain. So they go back to the surgeon and they say, I am still hurting. And the surgeon says — well, there is nothing wrong with your knee anymore. I already took care of it. You have an artificial joint now. You should not be hurting.
But they are hurting. So what is going on?
Let me explain. Because in most cases, the knee was never the real problem.
What Usually Happens — The Standard Path
Suppose your knee starts to hurt. You go to your doctor. They take an x-ray. And on that x-ray they find some arthritic changes — almost everybody past a certain age has some. So right away, the arthritis gets the blame. Your knee hurts because of arthritis.
Then comes the standard procedure. First, an injection — usually a steroid mixed with an anesthetic. So yes, it feels better almost immediately. But here is what nobody tells you.
It is not fixing anything — and it may be making the joint worse. In a two-year study published in JAMA, people who got a steroid knee injection every three months lost twice as much cartilage as those who got a harmless saltwater shot — and they got no better pain relief for it. Repeated injections can wear down the very cartilage, tendons, and ligaments you are trying to protect.
And if you have diabetes, there is one more thing. A single steroid injection can also spike your blood sugar for several days, and people with diabetes — especially those whose control is already borderline — need to watch for that. I have seen people taking an injection every six months, every year, for years. And at the end, they came out more damaged, not less.
So the injection tones down the symptom. But the reason it is hurting is still sitting there, untouched.
Why the Knee Is Usually Not the Problem
Here is the thing I always emphasize. Knee pain is not the same in a man and in a woman.
A woman’s pelvis is proportionally wider than a man’s — wider through the hips relative to the rest of the frame. And because the pelvis sits wider, the angle that the thigh bone makes coming down into the knee is different. We call this the Q-angle. In men it usually runs about 8 to 14 degrees. In women, because of that wider pelvis, it runs higher — around 11 to 20 degrees. That wider angle quietly pulls the kneecap outward, which is one big reason women stand slightly knock-kneed, and why women have far more kneecap-tracking problems than men do.
And it is not just the pelvis. Anything going on in the hip, or in the sacroiliac joint, can show up as knee pain. So the knee is where you feel it. But the knee is not where it is coming from.
Now think about what happens next. Because the knee hurts, you stop moving. And when you stop moving, the muscles — the majority of what actually moves and protects that joint — start to get weaker. Weaker muscles mean more strain on the joint, which means more pain, which means even less movement. It becomes a vicious cycle. And an injection does nothing to break it.
So the real question is not surgery or no surgery. The real question is — where is this actually coming from?
The One Time I Told a Patient to Get the Surgery
Now, I am not against surgery. Let me be very clear about that.
I remember a woman who came to me with severe knee pain. She had been in a couple of car accidents, with real knee injuries, and her range of motion was extremely limited. When I examined her, I found she truly had a mechanical problem inside the knee itself. So I told her — you need this surgery. We did therapy first, before the operation, to prepare the joint and the muscles around it. She went and had the surgery. And then we continued the rehabilitation from there.
That is how it should work. Surgery has to be done — but for the right reason.
The problem is that this is the rare case, not the common one. Consider the numbers. More than 500,000 arthroscopic knee “clean-out” surgeries are done in the United States every year, at a cost of around $4 billion — and research estimates up to one in three, and in some states nearly half, are low-value, meaning the patient was unlikely to benefit.
It gets more surprising. In a landmark trial in the New England Journal of Medicine, surgeons compared a real arthroscopic surgery for a worn meniscus against a fake, “pretend” surgery — same incisions, same motions, but nothing was actually removed. A year later, the two groups were identical. The real surgery worked no better than the fake one. And on longer-term follow-up, the surgery group showed slightly more structural wear in the joint, not less.
How You Can Tell the Pain Is Not Coming From Your Knee
So how do you know? Here are a few things I look for.
Press directly on the knee joint. In many people, pressing on it does not really hurt — but the moment they stand up or take a step, it hurts. That is a clue the joint itself is not the source.
Watch the kneecap. If it does not glide straight — if it tracks off to the side — that is a mechanical, correctable problem, not something you cut out.
And feel the side of the hip. Press along the TFL and IT band — the band of tissue running down the outside of the hip and thigh. When the real problem is up in the hip or the sacroiliac joint, that spot is often very tender, even though the person came in complaining only about the knee. Most people never think to press there. But when they do, they are surprised how sore it is.
When that is what is going on, no amount of knee surgery is going to help. Because we would be operating on the place where you feel it, not the place it is coming from.
What We Do Differently at Synergy Therapeutic Group
This is exactly what we treat here in Carbondale, IL. We do not look at the knee in isolation. We look at the pelvis, the hip, the way you stand, the way you move, the muscles that stopped doing their job. We look at the whole picture — because the knee is almost never telling the whole story.
You can read how one of our patients, Elizabeth avoided the meniscus surgery she thought she needed — once we found where her pain was really coming from.
So, Can You Avoid Knee Surgery?
In most cases, yes. Because most knee pain is not coming from the knee itself, treating the real source often settles it without an operation. Some knee surgeries are genuinely necessary, but they are the exception, not the rule.
So let me sum this up for you.
Number one: most knee pain, especially in women, does not start in the knee — it starts in the pelvis and the hip.
Number two: injections and even surgery often treat the spot where you feel it, not the reason it is happening — which is why the pain comes back.
Number three: in most cases, yes, knee surgery can be avoided — but the only way to know is to look at the whole body, not just the x-ray. Half a million of these surgeries happen every year, and research suggests up to a third may not be needed. So before you agree to one, find out where your pain is really coming from.
If any of this sounds like what you are going through — come and see us. You do not have to keep living like this.
Ready to find out what is really going on with your knee?
At Synergy Therapeutic Group in Carbondale, IL, I work one-on-one with adults facing chronic knee pain — helping you understand your body before you agree to surgery.
Related reading: if your pain runs down the leg instead of settling in the knee, see Can Sciatica Go Away Without Surgery?
Frequently Asked Questions
Can physical therapy really help me avoid knee surgery?
In most cases, yes. Because most knee pain is not actually coming from inside the knee — it is coming from the hip, the pelvis, or weak muscles around the joint. When we correct that, the knee often settles down on its own. Some surgeries are genuinely necessary, but they are the exception, not the rule.
I already had knee surgery and I’m still in pain. Why?
This is very common. It usually means the true source of the pain was never in the knee to begin with — so replacing or repairing the joint did not address it. We look at the whole chain: pelvis, hip, and the muscles that support the knee.
Are cortisone injections bad for my knee?
They can give real short-term relief. But a two-year JAMA study found repeated steroid injections caused more cartilage loss than saltwater shots, with no better pain relief. They are a temporary tool — not a solution, and not one to lean on repeatedly.
How do I know if my knee surgery is truly necessary?
Some surgeries genuinely are — a real mechanical injury inside the joint, such as after an accident. The way to know is a full biomechanical evaluation of the whole body, not just an x-ray of the knee.
Subrat Bahinipati, PT, is a physical therapist with over 30 years of experience and co-founder of Synergy Therapeutic Group in Carbondale, IL. He works with adults dealing with chronic pain, knee and joint pain, and complex cases that have not settled with the usual joint-focused approaches.
This article is for general educational purposes and reflects the clinical experience of the author. It is not a substitute for an individual medical evaluation, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have severe, sudden, or worsening knee pain, or your knee gives way, locks, or is hot and swollen, see a qualified provider. Results vary from person to person. Synergy Therapeutic Group, 1110 N Cedar Court, Carbondale, IL 62901, (618) 243-7822.


